Hey guy's I wanted to let you all know that Magnum Tuning Performance Products is a SCAM!!! Not only does the Magnum Revolution-Pro CDI Box REV/SPEED Limiter Delete not work (Cant even be installed in the Honda PGM-FI Unit "ECM") you will destroy your $600+ PGM-FI Unit. Oh, and don't plan on calling them because you will only get a answering machine. They offer NO phone tech service. You email them and they will respond with some kind of bull **** within 48hrs of receiving your email.
The Instructions or "High Notes" as they call them are vague at best and the pictures and instructions don't apply the Honda PGM-FI Unit they use a Honda Civic ECM in their instructions. Their customer service and tech support is a JOKE, and the complete product is a scam. I took the computer "PGM-FI Unit" and the Magnum Revolution-Pro CDI Box to a electronics specialist that build computers and repairs electronics and automotive ECM/ECU's that has a electrical engineering degree that has fixed various T.V.'s, Car Stereo's, computers, and other stuff for me in the past.
He advised me not to have him try to install the MAGNUM REVOLUTION-PRO CDI BOX because he felt the way the PGM-FI Unit was made there was a 95% chance it wouldn't work and he would destroy the computer trying to get it apart and get the Magnum CDI Box Installed. I emailed Magnum and told them what he said and the next day the owner himself assured me everything would work fine. So I gave the Electronics Specialist the go ahead, and sure enough once he did finally git inside the computer the board was nothing like the instructions it was. there wasn't even a spot to solder it in and there is no quartz.
This is the last response I got VIA email from their Tech Support, I know longer get any responses....
I need you help and I can't wait another 48hrs to find out whats going on. I've done a lot of performance work to this MUV-700 and this Magnum CDI Box is the only component thats holding me up. The instructions that came with the CDI Box don't tell you exactly where the ECM is located. All I can find is a Keihin PGM-FI Unit and it look absolutely nothing like the ECM depicted in the instructions. Every time I email you you give me the run around and your response and the instructions are vague and you wont talk to me on the phone. I have to wait 48hrs for a unhelpful response. I feel like your giving me the run around and I'm afraif I've bought into a scam. If the PGM-FI unit (MSRP = $879.99) is destroyed by the electronics expert thats going to install it are you going to buy me a new one? He's telling me I have a 95% chance that disassembling this PGM-FI Unit will destroy it. Please be straight up with me and let me know whats going on. I need you to GET BACK WITH ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!
Thanks, Jim
Magnum Tunings Response
First of all why have you attached a highlighted copy of High Notes from our web site? I've been totally familiar with since it was debuted yet in 1999? I'm not a representative has just been hired by Magnum, rest assured we put every wheel into motion to assist you ASAP. Our manufacturer tech support is supposed to help customers in a timely manner however we never advertized we reply immediately. This is impossible considering the huge amount of emails, chiefly around Yuletide period when all companies are full. No manufacturers or authorized online dealerships warrant prompt response time, so please don’t expect that non-existence service from us. Please let me focus on the technical support instead of assuming we want to mislead valuable Customers. What for would we do that?
A online purchase is supposed to be a contract between two parties. Merchant is fully responsible for order fulfillment including selling exactly what is advertized. Also we run exceptional Technical support. Buyer has to be is responsible for at least reading and acknowledgement of relevant information. This is not a pair of shoes you can simply pull on your feet. Tune-up part might affect engine durability, reliability so to be aware of fundamental criteria is exigency. We do not conceal several factors have to be considered prior to purchase.
As long as you can read and obey the instructions this item is installable and works exactly as described on MUV-700. No risk of damage accordingly unless unit is misused or improperly installed. ECU can be disassembled and gel dissolved according to accurate references on the manual. I want to let you know right now my Instructions nor my follow ups reply's have been vague or contradicting. I can not take the responsibility for for your total ignorance of high notes. Everyone being inclined with this topic knows, ECU is a common phrase in automotive terminology also referred as to ECM, FI unit, etc. There are at least 50 different abbreviations for electronic engine managements. As a senior developer engineer I’m not willing to reply to intentional fault finding. If you buy a gasket, a spark plug, an oil filter, a serpentine belt a timing belt or bearings you WILL NOT RECEIVE VEHICLE SPECIFIC PICTURES or instructions. Each part can cause a $5,000 worth damage in the instance of wrong installation. Setup of REV-PRO is can be VERY risky. Your the one that ordered the part and you should have read high notes and installation instruction on the web site before order, if you had you wouldn’t have encountered any issue or at least we would have had the opportunity to reply to all question yet prior to purchase. If you had you wouldn't have had any questions or issues!!! This is NOT our bad. As I stated before the Rev limiter can be fitted perfectly for a technical-minded installer (Clearly You NOT) if instructions are followed and high notes obeyed.
Thank you.
This is what the PGM-FI Unit on the MUV-700 looks like:
The Instructions or "High Notes" as they call them are vague at best and the pictures and instructions don't apply the Honda PGM-FI Unit they use a Honda Civic ECM in their instructions. Their customer service and tech support is a JOKE, and the complete product is a scam. I took the computer "PGM-FI Unit" and the Magnum Revolution-Pro CDI Box to a electronics specialist that build computers and repairs electronics and automotive ECM/ECU's that has a electrical engineering degree that has fixed various T.V.'s, Car Stereo's, computers, and other stuff for me in the past.
He advised me not to have him try to install the MAGNUM REVOLUTION-PRO CDI BOX because he felt the way the PGM-FI Unit was made there was a 95% chance it wouldn't work and he would destroy the computer trying to get it apart and get the Magnum CDI Box Installed. I emailed Magnum and told them what he said and the next day the owner himself assured me everything would work fine. So I gave the Electronics Specialist the go ahead, and sure enough once he did finally git inside the computer the board was nothing like the instructions it was. there wasn't even a spot to solder it in and there is no quartz.
This is the last response I got VIA email from their Tech Support, I know longer get any responses....
I need you help and I can't wait another 48hrs to find out whats going on. I've done a lot of performance work to this MUV-700 and this Magnum CDI Box is the only component thats holding me up. The instructions that came with the CDI Box don't tell you exactly where the ECM is located. All I can find is a Keihin PGM-FI Unit and it look absolutely nothing like the ECM depicted in the instructions. Every time I email you you give me the run around and your response and the instructions are vague and you wont talk to me on the phone. I have to wait 48hrs for a unhelpful response. I feel like your giving me the run around and I'm afraif I've bought into a scam. If the PGM-FI unit (MSRP = $879.99) is destroyed by the electronics expert thats going to install it are you going to buy me a new one? He's telling me I have a 95% chance that disassembling this PGM-FI Unit will destroy it. Please be straight up with me and let me know whats going on. I need you to GET BACK WITH ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!
Thanks, Jim
Magnum Tunings Response
First of all why have you attached a highlighted copy of High Notes from our web site? I've been totally familiar with since it was debuted yet in 1999? I'm not a representative has just been hired by Magnum, rest assured we put every wheel into motion to assist you ASAP. Our manufacturer tech support is supposed to help customers in a timely manner however we never advertized we reply immediately. This is impossible considering the huge amount of emails, chiefly around Yuletide period when all companies are full. No manufacturers or authorized online dealerships warrant prompt response time, so please don’t expect that non-existence service from us. Please let me focus on the technical support instead of assuming we want to mislead valuable Customers. What for would we do that?
A online purchase is supposed to be a contract between two parties. Merchant is fully responsible for order fulfillment including selling exactly what is advertized. Also we run exceptional Technical support. Buyer has to be is responsible for at least reading and acknowledgement of relevant information. This is not a pair of shoes you can simply pull on your feet. Tune-up part might affect engine durability, reliability so to be aware of fundamental criteria is exigency. We do not conceal several factors have to be considered prior to purchase.
As long as you can read and obey the instructions this item is installable and works exactly as described on MUV-700. No risk of damage accordingly unless unit is misused or improperly installed. ECU can be disassembled and gel dissolved according to accurate references on the manual. I want to let you know right now my Instructions nor my follow ups reply's have been vague or contradicting. I can not take the responsibility for for your total ignorance of high notes. Everyone being inclined with this topic knows, ECU is a common phrase in automotive terminology also referred as to ECM, FI unit, etc. There are at least 50 different abbreviations for electronic engine managements. As a senior developer engineer I’m not willing to reply to intentional fault finding. If you buy a gasket, a spark plug, an oil filter, a serpentine belt a timing belt or bearings you WILL NOT RECEIVE VEHICLE SPECIFIC PICTURES or instructions. Each part can cause a $5,000 worth damage in the instance of wrong installation. Setup of REV-PRO is can be VERY risky. Your the one that ordered the part and you should have read high notes and installation instruction on the web site before order, if you had you wouldn’t have encountered any issue or at least we would have had the opportunity to reply to all question yet prior to purchase. If you had you wouldn't have had any questions or issues!!! This is NOT our bad. As I stated before the Rev limiter can be fitted perfectly for a technical-minded installer (Clearly You NOT) if instructions are followed and high notes obeyed.
Thank you.
This is what the PGM-FI Unit on the MUV-700 looks like: