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Just purchased a 2018 700-4 with 109 hrs and about 440 miles on the clock.

Got it home, unloaded it, and 2 days in a row took it for a couple short drives just to get acclimated. Day 3 taking the wife and dog for a ride, turn the key.... and all I hear is what sounds like a relay clicking repeatedly and the dash flashing all lights which looks like a Christmas tree ! It has been parked in a garage.

What I do know.... I thought I may have left the headlight switch turned on after testing operation, so I pulled the battery and put on a 2 amp trickle charge overnight...... power is fine there. No change, still clicking and flashing, when I turn the key after allowing it to power up.

I have pulled all fuses and found they were all fine in the fuse box. I haven't checked the 40a main fuse since I'm not quite sure how the cover pops of.... and I sure don't want to mess that up.

I'm not sure, but I think when I turn the key on to the first position before turning to engage the starter after its power up, I don't think I hear the FI pump..... should I ?

I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I couldn't find anything after searching.

Any direction would be appreciated and thank you.

Bob
Philadelphia, TN
 

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I would suggest using the diagnostic troubleshooting section in the repair manual to narrow down issues.

 

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Howdy and welcome from Northern Iowa
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Start from square one. eliminate one thing at a time.
Do you have a battery load tester?
If not, use a multimeter.
Battery. hook up your multimeter.
Key off, what is the voltage?
Key on, what is the voltage?
Turn on EVERYTHING , high beam head light and any other accessory, step on the brake. now what is the voltage?
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Now try to crank it over while watching the voltage.
If you are below 10 volts, bad battery.
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Yep, some way, some how, have the battery tested. Our Hondas are so voltage sensitive.
Everything you described sounds like low voltage.
Could it be something else? Yes, it could, but we have to know the battery is good, before moving on.
Have read about MANY owners with problems. They say "oh yes, I have a good battery because it starts."
Later on, the problem ends up being a bad/weak battery......
Yes, you read that right. Our Hondas will sometimes start with a bad battery.
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Multimeters are cheap, but do so much for you. example, This one is $7 at Harbor Freight.
You don't need one of those several hundred dollar ones to work on our Hondas.
All you need is something to check voltage and continuity.
Voltage for power in wires or battery. Continuity, mainly to check fuses.
And, you could probably buy a cheap one at your "local parts store"
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Have a good day
 
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Sorry to have taken so long to update this thread..... but it has taken me 3 trips to different battery vendors, just to be able to get it tested correctly.

First stop was Advance Auto..... thought if I did need a battery, they could sell me a DieHard which I have always trusted. It literally took 10 mins for the kid behind the counter to figure out his test machine which looked like he was using it for the first time. His conclusion...." Nope its nor bad, just needs a charge as it is sitting at 8.7 volts..." Well if its at 8.7 volts after I have charged on and off for 2 days..... I felt obligated to ask again. "You sure the battery is not bad ? " Nope... just needs a good charge. So I took it home, and put it back on the charger.

Still wouldn't get the 700 to start.... and the same light show on the dash. This time I took it to AutoZone..... same thing, the guy behind the counter didn't give me that warm and fuzzy feeling as I had asked him to check a battery which was beneath his pay grade. Low voltage.... needs a charge.... battery is OK.

Stop 3.... NAPA. I walk up to the counter and ask to see the oldest guy in the store ! Why..... I need someone who can really test a battery. Old Roy shuffles his way to the counter with his battery tester...... "This battery is so bad, I cant even print out a report on its condition. I said really....? Yup.... it's a boat anchor ! Thanks finally confirmation of what I suspected after charging this pint size battery longer than my old group 4D that was in a Cat D6D dozer.

Searched around, Cycle Gear offered a replacement with a 1 year warranty, which I have found out is somewhat rare on these..... Came in yesterday, installed this morning.... and the Pioneer came to life once again.

I'll bet I spent almost as much on gas getting it tested 3 times.... as I paid for the AGM battery.

Guys.... thanks to all that responded.... problem averted.

Bob
 

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HECK YEAH!!!!!!!! (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y) HECK YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice to hear when problems are figured out.
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Even better when it gets posted here, to maybe help someone else.
Thanks for that.
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Time to ride!
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Have a good day
 
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